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I haven't tried virtualization as it isn't part of my workflow, but I would assume that report is correct. A good repaste will be your best bet for that indeed. I haven't had anything repeatable with the WiFi. I've had a couple disconnects over 4 months but that's it.
I'm currently on my second P1, given an RMA for the first. Issues that I've run into, which persist in the second I've received are below. Trackpad is jumpy. Occasionally a click will jump a few hundred pixels. Sometimes massive acceleration that scrolls an entire article down. Frustrating, but perhaps driver related and may eventually be fixed.
Bottom plate of laptop case, not snug and vibrates with sound. No way to tighten down further and requires different screws or washers to fix of they want then truly snug and solid. USB devices randomly disconnect. Without any touching, in both windows and in booting i.
Touching the device may cause a disconnect as well. Seems like the physical ports are not solid. Trivial stuff like the oils in the finish are quite noticable, but not a huge deal compared to what you would be getting out of this gorgeous and performant device, would that the build quality was better. I want to love this laptop, but given the above I can't. Hopefully, Lenovo takes note and focuses some effort to improve this.
Back to searching for a UHD laptop alternative. I haven't experienced any of those except the bottom plate issue with the screws not properly going in. What seemed to have happened was the tip of the screws broke off in the mid-chassis, and then they wouldn't properly be received again.
The other issues do seem hardware related. Odd that both happened with both of your P1s. Everything updated, I assume? I wonder if it could be related to the Xeon mainboards? Yeah, I thought that it was very odd too. Seems like whichever batch of boards I got in mine were defective. I could plug in a USB drive and just sit there and withing minutes it would disconnect, both in Windows and Linux btw. Definitely hardware. Touching the USB drive in the slightest would result in disconnects. All very unfortunate, because these are gorgeous and performant laptops.
Great thermals given what's packed inside, etc. The Xeon Fab process could have just been bonkers with my batch, true. I almost tried a third time, requesting a different lot of motherboards, but unlikely they would include it even know how to get that done given the red tape. Couldn't gamble a third time and honestly their support didn't seem to care or want details about the problems.
I had full up premier support btw. They never called me back when they were open and just let my return with normal support stand, even though they were supposed to get in touch. Disappointing… If they promised a different result and quicker, I would have said sure. I ran into someone with the X1 Extreme during this time btw, which uses the same chassis, but they didn't have any of the same issues in the short time they had theirs.
They were loving it. Pretty sure the trackpad issue was driver related or related to their multitouch sensor being flakey. I've had to RMA move for almost identical issues, but a lot more goes on with these track pads. I would have held out hope for a fix if that's all that was wrong. The screen was gorgeous. A little uneven lighting on the edges when on black, but could have lived with it. Supposedly super dark blacks and whites that are twice as bright…perfect for outdoors.
Just boxed then both up and said goodbye : Honestly, it was hard to let them go. I worked on them until the last day, despite the issues. Sorry to hear about that. I've had similar issues here in Hong Kong with their support. Complete lack of interest ; I had to handle them with kids gloves to help them do their own job and ensure I even got the stated follow — up.
Had the same issue , one usb a port disconnect on thinkpad p1 ih quadro p , just got it back , same 2 usb ports put back on new motherboard, no more issues , i thought it was the usb ports but its something else which is weird because touching usb key would do it. Final note , the new mothboard was a iH with a quadro p!!!
That was unexpected and big upgrade…. May I ask that would you prefer this over the XPS 15? I am currently experiencing a similar issue with my recently purchased X1 Extreme 2nd Gen. The palm rest on the right side of the chassis produced a "rattling" sound whenever I would tip on it with a finger or my palm. When I noticed that the loose bottom cover must be the cause, and tried to remove and re-tighten it, one of the front screws or threads? On-site support will be taking care of it soon though… I was wondering about the mid-chassis which you also swapped: Was it because the remainder of the broken-off screw tip was stuck in the thread of the mid-chassis, or were the threads or something else also defective in the mid-chassis?
My issue was with the screw-ends in the mid chassis, so it required a complete teardown to fix. I'll definitely report back when I know what caused the issue and how it could be fixed. We've actually got a P53 in review right now by Sam Medley, so I look forward to comparing the 2! Eventually, the service technician replaced the bottom cover on-site, and found that the thread in the mid-chassis was damaged as well. The mid-chassis has now also been replaced after some hiatus caused by a shortage of this component's availability.
The technician replaced the mid-chassis a week ago, and the rattling disappeared completely. However, after a few days, I found that the screw in the center front and on the right front, as seen from the user is again getting looser and looser, and the rattling re-appears, albeit in a much less pronounced form. Since the bottom cover and the mid-chassis are now completely new, and the problem is still slightly persistent, I have the feeling that it's either a design error of this model, or a quality control problem….
Your long term reviews are great, much appreciated — far more valuable than the 'reviewed and returned' model. Yes — I was thinking of mentioning it but ended up not because it was so satisfactory. The screen I got a replacement due to the original having uneven lighting is really quite nice. It's definitely bright enough to use outdoors.
What'a the bit depth on FHD? How is it really? Apparently you need W10 and higher to enable HDR. I got a replacement panel from AUO that seemed to have better properties than the one that came with the laptop, and I while I don't professionally edit visual media, I use Windows Dark Mode and find the black levels quite good.
I don't have a calibrator here, but having seen lots of screens, I think the contrast looks a bit better than 3. I'm not sure how I can determine this, but if there's some specific media you want me to check with, feel free to link me! I probably won't need ECC any time soon, but I am curious if there might be any discernible gains in DAW performance to be had by opting for the Xeon's larger cache, in spite of the added heat?
Or would it be safer for "glitch free" real-time audio to go with the slightly cooler i7? Also any credence to vague notions that the P1 will in some way be better suited for real-time audio than the X1E, are DPC latencies lower due to the presence of Quadro instead of GeForce, or are there any optimizations specific to the P line's drivers that would help prioritize audio performance?
Are the ISV certifications really all they're chalked up to be in terms of being "taken seriously" by support? My lap was about as hot as when my fully loaded MacBook kicked into high gear. As for performance, I couldn't really compare with the non-Xeon, but it could burn through some pretty serious compiles. More power is always better to prevent those untimely hiccups, but unless you are doing some very serious real time post processing or something, I don't think you would have any issues with the non-Xeon.
However, I would consider disabling speed step or using a speed step control software to lock it into performance mode while you are doing something that needs to be hiccup-free. Either way, I'm guessing that just having the discrete GPU will be helpful to prevent any system memory sharing that could have an impact. No idea about the audio chipset though.
The P1 is considered a professional Ultrabook rather than an enthusiast one, so you may get more attention from support? Not sure, but I'd opt for the premium support despite my less than stellar experience with them. At least you will get taken care of quickly should you have an issue. I get typos from it maybe every 10 sentences I type quickly.
It's fairly annoying, but the slower you type the less of a problem it is. I'd guess if you're above 85 wpm or so it will hit you as often as it does me. I was almost decided on getting it but this is holding me back, I do tend to type very fast and it's surprising this bug exists on so many models. Is there any hope this will be fixed by Lenovo? Would this hold you from buying it again? They did fix it on the E-series. It does bother me, but I would be okay with it as long as you don't pay more than you are happy with.
Thanks for this long-term review! I don't know if I'm having a driver issue etc, but it takes about 30 seconds.. Thanks and best wishes. I'd say about seconds, which includes my 3 seconds dual boot screen for my rescue partition. I was having problems with my swapped in ssd so I just did a clean windows reinstall on the original ssd. I don't use vantage for updates, I prefer to go to the website every few weeks and check for myself.
Thanks for the quick reply. I have intel gb ssd which came with this laptop. Did you make the installation from lenovo factory image or from microsoft website? Did you make any changes in bios? Do you also download the latest gpu drivers from lenovo website? I like this laptop, I just want to solv these little but some kind of annoying issues.. Thanks again for your help. I don't recall any changes in BIOS. I used the factory image that came installed, didn't even wipe it.
Using latest GPU drivers from lenovo and all other drivers. At this point, I have 2 final questions: which ssd did you try to swap-in? I'll probably get another ssd and it could be the evo plus. So I want to know which ssd caused issues for you Secondly, can you suggest a case for the device?
Hi again, I'm able to undervolt my cpu to mv by using XTU. İs it because of bad thermal-paste? Andrei Girbea. I've had the X1 Extreme for four months now and I got to say, I'm a tad disappointed myself. There are a few things the reviews don't mention about this machine. My biggest issue is with the portability of the laptop. It's light and the keyboard is great, but otherwise I don't feel it's very comfortable to use.
I feel the touch pad is too small and registers palms as misclicks too often. The bottom of the laptop also gets uncomfortably hot during use, as the air vents are located at the bottom. Top of the keyboard also heats up pretty quickly in just normal use. The display, despite looking great in the optimal lighting, is not bright enough to be used in sunlight. As the display is glossy, it also reflects a lot of light. Then there's the battery life and performance on battery power.
It's only about three hours when equipped with the 4K model. With MacBook Pro I used previously it works just fine. So you need to carry around the big power brick wherever you go. On a wall USB-C charger you'll get enough power to keep the laptop running, but not to charge the battery. And note that plugged in to USB-C charger you'll have the same performance as with just being on battery power. Anyway, even plugged in, don't expect to just buy this computer, at least with the iH, and have it perform optimally.
The thermals are bad out of the box and you'll experience thermal throttling. You'll need to do undervolting to about mV and likely open the case and repaste the CPU to get better thermals. Even still you'll see the CPU temps hit C on pretty normal use. The lowest it'll go will be around 45 C when you do absolutely nothing. While you have the case open for undervolting, I would also recommend removing the film covering the air vents or otherwise you'll want to wear headphones when the fans start spinning — the fan noise out-of-box isn't music to the ears.
Then there's the aforementioned Hyper-V related throttling issue. If you're a developer, consider very carefully if you ever need to enable Hyper-V before you buy this computer. If you do, for example because of Docker for Windows, just keep in mind there's unsolved issue that causes the laptop to thermal throttle at 80 C instead of at the normal C. When you regularly hit C on normal use, it'll hurt the performance when you'll start to throttle 20 C before that.
Also randomly some audio controller device stops functioning and I lose the audio through my monitor speakers. Now, a word on quality. In the time I've had the laptop, I've had three motherboard replacements BIOS setting change bricked one, one of the USB-As was non-functioning, attempt at fixing no display through USB-C , one replaced display dead pixels and the entire body casing has been replaced once because after all these replacements, the backplate screws wouldn't tighten anymore.
Though I have to say I've been impressed by how well the Lenovo service works. They really come to your home and replace any part on premises. Of course, you might have to wait for the parts. I had to wait two weeks for the new display and one month for one of the motherboards when the BIOS bricking epidemic was at it's height before Christmas.
But out of four visits, two happened very quickly after filing an warranty repair order. So… If you're looking for best performance and especially if you don't care about portability that much, go with P You'll get better thermals and performance for almost the same amount of money. Also, with better thermals, I feel like this laptop would be more comfortable to use, so you might gain something on that department too.
I've been living in Asia for the last 13 years, so I just have bought white-label unbranded basically sleeves as I find them. Nothing special at all. I bought a spec'ed out p1 for work and from day 1 there was considerable coil whine from the cpu and gpu area. Called tech support who were adamant it was the fans, so they got replaces on the p1.
Noise still there. Tech then replaced the motherboard, noise was still there. Matter got escalated to supervisor etc… in the end whats happened is they gave me an x1e loan machine to use while the p1 was shipped back to Lenovo HQ. In the end ill have the x1e loaner for like 6 months as i travel for work till they figure out whats going on. Latest word though is the noise is "normal" as long as its too loud… which is the most rubbish thing ive ever heard.
So im waiting to see when the new p1 comes how it will behave and sound. Btw, with the x1e, a bios update bricked it, so the motherboard was replaced. So overall, 4 motherboards for the x1e and the p1 2 each and all 4 have the same coil whine and its independent of the cpu's and gpus installed. So wondering if anyone else hears the coil whine on these machines? Definitely have coil whine on my X1E ih. Definitely have backlight bleed.
I'm also travelling and cant return to US for the support service. Did you have an international support? Sounds like a typical experience for a premium laptop with business-class support in ! The E15 has a From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Series of laptops by Lenovo. Laptop color codes. Processor Socketed desktop processor. Socketed mobile processor. Soldered high power processor. Soldered standard power processor.
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They are called ThinkPad Edge 14 and 15, and as the names suggests, the displays measure 14 and Build quality is above average compared to consumer notebooks, but a step below business-grade ThinkPads. The screen hinges are noticeably smaller than what you might find on a standard ThinkPad; they are plastic-faced, not metal.
ThinkPads have been known for strong screen hinges that last throughout the notebook's life without wearing out. Unlike more expensive ThinkPad models, the Edge 14 doesn't have an internal rollcage, but Lenovo still managed to keep the notebook pretty strong. The palmrest, touchpad and keyboard have no discernable flex under strong pressure and the frame doesn't flex if you carry it by the corner of the palmrest.
The Lenovo ThinkPad Edge 15 offers the same features as smaller Edge models, but falls short when it comes to build quality in the larger inch chassis. What makes the keyboard unique is that it's the first Chiclet keyboard I have found that's very comfortable and easy to type on.
Overall, the touchpad was pleasant to use, with a fast response time and no discernable lag. Sensitivity was excellent and no adjustment was needed out of the box. The Lenovo ThinkPad Edge 15 has several things working in its favor. For one, it's a cheap small business laptop for those who are looking to buy several at a time. Second, the user experience and feature set are among the best in this category.
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